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  3 New Letters Arrived!--2019-December!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2019 december brd newsletter.

  https://docdro.id/odvxhqr.

  2019-s-1-e-congregation field service and meeting attendance report.

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  JW GoneBad

  For obvious reasons the following announcement is intended for elders only:

  "2. In some most congregations, few newly interested ones are present at the weekend meeting. In such cases, the speaker may adapt the public talk to encourage the publishers in the congregation."

  If there's soo much Gawd-Damn growth in the JW conregatiions...why soo few newly interested ones attending meetings? By this announcement WT, in a way, explains/admits why there's congregation mergers, Kingdom Hall sell-offs and why there wouldn't/shouldn't be hardly any new Kingdom Halls being built.

  This organization shoots itself in the foot soo many times and in soo many ways!

  Thank you Petra...love your long hair BTW!
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  Great Crowd and a pair of elephants, invisible.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for lurkers: current study article 1st december wt.

  in sept. study edition.

  details hidden in the discussion: a pair of 'elephants in the room', and their calves.

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  JW GoneBad

  In paragraph 11 WT soft-pedals huge errors that were made early on regarding the identity of 'The Crowd' by explaining them away as incorrect assumptions:

  "...Of course, that thinking was influenced by two incorrect assumptions: (1) that the great crowd would reside in heaven and (2) that the great crowd would be made up of less zealous Christians."
  
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  JW.org's new miserable picture

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the new article about the international convention in manila, the picture of the crowd is pretty telling.

  they look so drained and miserable!.

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  JW GoneBad

  Many here are noticing and commenting...'Gone Are The Songbooks'!

  Even more importantly & notable...at this convention and at every JW meeting in general is...'Gone Are The Bibles'!

  Sad but true and very apparent...Gone is the WTBTS' supposed love for God's word the Bible!
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  Hotels Deny Watchtower Discount Rates For 2020 Regional Conventions

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the wtbts is not being given special room rates by 2 major hotels at the long beach convention center area for the upcoming 2020 regional conventions & wt is t'd off.

  letters are being read in surrounding circuits and congregations.

  apparently wt is afraid that other hotels are going to blackball them as well.. has anyone else heard this?

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  JW GoneBad

  I was told that up to three letters are being read to most if not all congregations in the Long Beach area during this week's mid meeting. One letter is from WT Headquarters...the gist of the letter is that while 'Mother' isn't happy with the hotels for refusing to offer discount rates...WT puts most of the blame on renegade rank & file members who have not been following protocol...but rather have been making their own reservations...not booking rooms from WT's recommended lodging lists. One of the other letters was from WT's Long Beach Convention Committee. In this letter they come down hard on those rank & file JWs for not cooperating...for acting independently, so to speak. The committee says, in so many words, that these JWs have ruined it for everyone else...that the end result will be that brothers and sisters will be forced to book rooms with hotels that are further away from the convention venue.

  My reply to 'Mother' and the Long Beach Convention Committee and anyone else concerned..."Get Over It"!
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  Hotels Deny Watchtower Discount Rates For 2020 Regional Conventions

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the wtbts is not being given special room rates by 2 major hotels at the long beach convention center area for the upcoming 2020 regional conventions & wt is t'd off.

  letters are being read in surrounding circuits and congregations.

  apparently wt is afraid that other hotels are going to blackball them as well.. has anyone else heard this?

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  JW GoneBad

  The WTBTS is not being given special room rates by 2 major hotels at the Long Beach Convention Center area for the upcoming 2020 Regional Conventions & WT is t'd off. Letters are being read in surrounding circuits and congregations. Apparently WT is afraid that other hotels are going to blackball them as well.

  Has anyone else heard this? Does anyone know the reasons why? Is this going on in other convention cities?
  
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  simple illustration by a carpenter

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this week's study ( no.

  88) on the illustration of abraham and the begging lazarus and the rich man, all dying, in heaven and hell fire.

  the bible stories, convoluted as they are, even more pretzelled by wt.

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  JW GoneBad

  WT would do every rank and file member a favor by not offering any explanations or opinions about anything Bible related. One only has to think how for decades WT applied Joel 2 regarding the significance of Locusts...just this year they did a 180° about-face on their previous understanding...what quacks!
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  The only thing Jehovah gives Hurricane Dorian survivors is.....''the strength to cope with their difficulty and distress.''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this article is from jw.org newsroom.

  audioaudio download options historic hurricane dorian pummels bahamas.

  hurricane dorian, one of the most powerful storms ever recorded in the atlantic ocean, made landfall as a category 5 storm on great abaco island in the northern bahamas on sunday morning, september 1, 2019. dorian is especially dangerous due to its slow movement, high wind speeds, and heavy rains.

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  JW GoneBad

  The WTBTS is demonstrating the attitude of someone who has a 'could care less' mindset...James 2:15-17 describes such one in the following way:

  "If a brother or a sister is lacking clothing and enough food for the day,  yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead."

  Then too, considering how much money the organization has at its disposal for helping those in need...there is this in 1John 3:17,18

  "But whoever has the material possessions of this world and sees his brother in need and yet refuses to show him compassion, in what way does the love of God remain in him?  Little children, we should love, not in word or with the tongue, but in deed and truth."
  

  
  
  
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  What happens to Bethelites?

  by rickroll in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so if someone puts their life into serving the cult for free at bethel, then say after 25 or 30 years they are not able to for one reason or another such as illness, or family issue or old age, does the cult have any safety net for these people or is it you serve until you can't and when you can't you just go away?

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  JW GoneBad

  I know of two separate couples who a few years ago were invited to Bethel. One brother because of his expertise in electronics...the other because of his knowledge pertaining to audio. They both felt confident they'd be there for many years to come. Recently, both couples received their 'Dear John' letters stating that because they would soon be joining the over-the-hill seventies club...that Mother would no longer need their services. Mother had one last request of both couples though...that instead of going back home...to rather choose a congregation in the U.S. territory in need of elders. The nerve of Mother the beech!

  PS: Both couples are to fend for themselves...very little if any help offered!
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  What happens to Bethelites?

  by rickroll in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so if someone puts their life into serving the cult for free at bethel, then say after 25 or 30 years they are not able to for one reason or another such as illness, or family issue or old age, does the cult have any safety net for these people or is it you serve until you can't and when you can't you just go away?

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  JW GoneBad

  As the French say: 'C'est la vie'...that's life!

  It's sad that aged ex-Bethelites have to spend their last chapter in life, after being kicked out by 'Mother', fending for themselves...dealing with rent, medical bills, insurance, travel expenses, employment, food...the list is endless and can/will get expensive and burdensome for them. Add to their pitiful plight...is if the only family they have to assist them are disfellowshipped children or other family members who they disowned and who they've shunned all these years to crawl back to. A good word to sum it all up is...Karma!

  All be ware...such is the life in a cult!
  
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  Role Call, Number of Family Members Who Have Shunned You!

  by The Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just one left, my sister.

  i haven't talk to her in over 15 years.

  the rest are all dead.. i'm not counting my ex wife and all her family.... .

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  JW GoneBad

  I know someone who is being shunned for nearly 15 years by his:

  4 sisters

  4 brothers

  4 brother n laws

  4 sister n laws

  5 nephews

  7 nieces

  The parents, on the other hand, are rebels against the WT's cruel and harsh disfellowshipping/shunning doctrine. They demonstrate unconditional love to all their children including their ex-JW son.